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Franken leading in Minnesota?

Postby korgy » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:02 pm

this is what fivethirtyeight and a few blogs reported yesterday, but i cannot find any legitimate news journal reporting that yet.

anyone else have a link that verifies that?
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Postby eric84 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:43 pm

I saw nothing official about it.....did see that there is optimism that the Dems will win the Oregon seat based on where the remaining votes are coming from.
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Postby methuselah » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:11 pm

Anyone who would vote for that lying prick Franken has to be as stupid as a turkey on acid.
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Postby PoliticalExiles » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:13 pm

This has been mentioned before. A recount is required in MN if the margin of victory is less than 0.5%.

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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:16 pm

thegreenlantern wrote:Even if true, it doesn't matter yet. The re-count will take a month, so leading now is like leading with only one precinct reporting.


thanks green, i didn't know the recount would take that long.

the MN election results website doesn't even list the US Senate race

http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/ ... ecMenu.asp
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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 06, 2008 4:18 pm

actually, it looks like it does list that race under "statewide" -- but only gives the result of the intial count:

http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/ ... A&Races=''
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Postby eric84 » Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:23 pm

So, according to that tally, the difference is now 342 votes so the margin of victory has shrunk further.
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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:20 pm

eric84 wrote:So, according to that tally, the difference is now 342 votes so the margin of victory has shrunk further.


good catch, eric
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Postby joeyramone » Thu Nov 06, 2008 9:28 pm

Who did tom Davis vote for?
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Postby korgy » Thu Nov 06, 2008 10:36 pm

eric, i'm not sure if they have updated the totals again, or your math was off(?) --

but right now, the difference is 590 votes:

COLEMAN 1211077 41.99
FRANKEN 1210487 41.97
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Postby korgy » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:34 am

eric, your math must have been correct -- they keep updating the results:

right now, it says

COLEMAN 1211542
FRANKEN 1211306

that's a 236 vote diff!!
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Postby Polardude » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:40 am

I can see this thing ending up in court. But we're used to that by now
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Postby tph24601 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:14 pm

you wonder how the Georgia runoff is going to go, especially if Obama go down to Georgia and campaign for Martin....

and if Palin decided to run for Stephen's seat after he gets expelled, it's gonna be fun watching her trying to fight for national spot light in the expense of the existing GOP senate leadership....

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Postby Lost Soul » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:26 pm

tph-
you wonder how the Georgia runoff is going to go, especially if Obama go down to Georgia and campaign for Martin....

The Republican wins easily.

The Libertarian candidate took 3%. Hi shmish!

I'd expect they would break 2:1 for the Republican, especially in light of the thin line in the Senate separating an economic catastrophe from devastation.
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Postby methuselah » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:32 pm

If Franken loses I expect him to bitch and moan and not be a gracious loser. I hope he proves me wrong.
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Postby Polardude » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:38 pm

If Franken loses I expect him to bitch and moan and not be a gracious loser. I hope he proves me wrong.

I'm sure itr won't even come close to the moaning we are hearing over the airwaves by Limbaugh
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Postby tph24601 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:40 pm

Lost Soul wrote:tph-
you wonder how the Georgia runoff is going to go, especially if Obama go down to Georgia and campaign for Martin....

The Republican wins easily.

The Libertarian candidate took 3%. Hi shmish!

I'd expect they would break 2:1 for the Republican, especially in light of the thin line in the Senate separating an economic catastrophe from devastation.

right, this comes after your predictions that Coleman and Stephens will win easily (not to mention the inevitable McCain triumph), excuse me for the yawn....

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Postby korgy » Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:58 pm

now it's at

COLEMAN 1211543
AL FRANKEN 1211305

weird - now it's a 238 vote difference -- and they only moved one vote into the Coleman column!

i think this calls for a runoff
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Postby Polardude » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:14 pm

Why a runoff of the votes had already been cast. Thats why you have recounts
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Postby tph24601 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:21 pm

it's funny that Coleman is calling Franken to concede, saying he would have done the same if the situation is reversed.....

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Postby Polardude » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:29 pm

[/quote]it's funny that Coleman is calling Franken to concede, saying he would have done the same if the situation is reversed.....[quote]
that is pretty funny
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Postby eric84 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:29 pm

...and by law they must have a recount. Coleman is pure slime.
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Postby Polardude » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:30 pm

Coleman is pure slime

like any god politician
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Postby eric84 » Fri Nov 07, 2008 4:31 pm

No, he takes to newer heights.
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Postby when i was young » Sat Nov 08, 2008 1:59 am

Anyone who would vote for that lying prick Franken has to be as stupid as a turkey on acid.


crystal, thats funny, a turkey on acid ha ha, bit cruel but.
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Postby Felix » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:14 pm

eric84 wrote:Coleman is pure slime.


Yes, he is. He was also the first Republican candidate I cast a ballot for.
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Postby Godjira » Sat Nov 08, 2008 4:20 pm

still, it would really cheese off the rightoids if Franken won.

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Postby korgy » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:31 pm

thge spread is now down to 221!


NORM COLEMAN 1211556
AL FRANKEN 1211335

http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/ ... P=A&Races=

that's only a 20 or 30 vote difference for each candidate than a few days ago -- anyone know what's going on now? are they waiting for held-up overseas votes to come in or something?
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Postby Polardude » Sat Nov 08, 2008 6:37 pm

I heard that ACORN is surpervising the recount
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Postby korgy » Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:08 pm

mutha is fixing
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Postby Espina » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:20 pm

The Coleman campaign has pushed Franken to exercise his option to decline the recount, citing an estimated $86,000 cost to taxpayers, but the Democrat has declined to do so.


Franken should offer to pay the $86K and I'll gladly post a donation.
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Postby Byrdfelt » Sat Nov 08, 2008 8:32 pm

When do they count their provisonals and late absentee. Here they must be recievd by 10am on the 14th Nov.

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Postby i_have_shiny_shoes » Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:48 pm

AP story by way of the Minnaepolis-St Paul Star-Tribune:

An Associated Press analysis of the nearly 25,000-vote difference in Minnesota presidential and U.S. Senate race tallies shows that most ballots lacking a recorded Senate vote were cast in counties won by Democrat Barack Obama.

The finding could have implications for Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and DFLer Al Franken, who are headed for a recount separated by the thinnest of margins -- 221 votes as of Friday, or about 0.01 percent.
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Postby Byrdfelt » Sat Nov 08, 2008 10:55 pm

Quote:
An Associated Press analysis of the nearly 25,000-vote difference in Minnesota presidential and U.S. Senate race tallies shows that most ballots lacking a recorded Senate vote were cast in counties won by Democrat Barack Obama.

The finding could have implications for Republican Sen. Norm Coleman and DFLer Al Franken, who are headed for a recount separated by the thinnest of margins -- 221 votes as of Friday, or about 0.01 percent.


Saw the same thing here. People were turning out for one race - and in a fair few cases only voted that race, and weren't concerned with bond issues or the school board.

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Postby ToadBrother » Sun Nov 09, 2008 3:31 am

methuselah wrote:Anyone who would vote for that lying prick Franken has to be as stupid as a turkey on acid.


Interesting. Would that also apply to voting for that lying prick, George W. Bush, or is that different because Bush is a borderline retard?

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Postby eric84 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:44 pm

I predict Coleman will go all Florida 2000 over this process.....he knows he likely loses if they hand count all the ballots so he has to stop it some way.
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Postby korgy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:09 pm

i don't know what they're doing before the hand recount, but Coleman's lead is now down to 204!:

NORM COLEMAN 1211554
AL FRANKEN 1211350

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Postby korgy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:10 pm

Byrdfelt wrote:When do they count their provisonals and late absentee. Here they must be recievd by 10am on the 14th Nov.


i guess byrdfelt answered the question?
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Postby korgy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:35 pm

woops - race changing by the minute

NORM COLEMAN 1211559
AL FRANKEN 1211350

a 209 difference
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Postby tph24601 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:45 pm

on a side note, Ted "bridge to nowhere" Stevens is up by 4000 votes in Alaska, but there are over 70000 absentee ballots yet to be counted, and of the few thousand absentee ballots already counted, Stevens' opponent leads by nearly 2-to-1.....

Sarah Palin may not get her chance to get in the Senate...

and if both Coleman and Stevens lose, that makes Democrat Senators at 59, if that's the case I am guessing Obama is going to offer a couple of cabinet posts to moderate republican senator like Spector/Snowe/Collins.....

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Postby korgy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:48 pm

i'll change the title of this thread
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Postby korgy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:50 pm

tph24601 wrote:
and if both Coleman and Stevens lose, that makes Democrat Senators at 59, if that's the case I am guessing Obama is going to offer a couple of cabinet posts to moderate republican senator like Spector/Snowe/Collins.....


you really think Obama is weighing both of these races that much? i suspect he will offer a cabinet post or two to moderate GOPs anyway...
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Postby tph24601 » Mon Nov 10, 2008 4:52 pm

korgy wrote:
tph24601 wrote:
and if both Coleman and Stevens lose, that makes Democrat Senators at 59, if that's the case I am guessing Obama is going to offer a couple of cabinet posts to moderate republican senator like Spector/Snowe/Collins.....


you really think Obama is weighing both of these races that much? i suspect he will offer a cabinet post or two to moderate GOPs anyway...

if that means getting 60 in the Senate, you bet he would be follwoing them closely....

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Postby korgy » Mon Nov 10, 2008 5:31 pm

but in terms of it making a diff about his cabinet?

Franken race back to 204 margin...

Republican NORM COLEMAN 1211560
Democratic-Farmer-Labor AL FRANKEN 1211356
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