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Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:11 pm

This place is dull, and seriously needs a shake up.

Maybe it's time to elect a new team of mods - if anyone is willing to take on the job - and then have a bit of a recruitment drive to bring in some new posters. That's right - NEW posters!!!

A lot of us have spent a lot of time hanging out here and back on LPTP over the years, I think it'd be a shame if this place just slowly dried up. This is nothing personal about the current set of Mods, I just think it might be time for a bit of a makeover.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby polardude1 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:28 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Soda emerges "out of Africa" and settles into his famed whine.

this is a masked attack thread on TPH, who seemsiot have gotten inside of Soda's head
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby tph24601 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:34 pm

polardude1 wrote:this is a masked attack thread on TPH

of course it is

but I have no problem having a new Mod election if that's what people want

i vote for an election, sure, why not

soda wrote:This is nothing personal about the current set of Mods,

that was pretty funny though

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:35 pm

Dude -

So getting back to the topic - how do you feel about a) a Mods election b) the state of the Stew these days?
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby avalon_ » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:43 pm

a. I don't see that it's necessary. There hasn't been any weirdness with modding that I've seen.
b. It's been a bit dull. We should bring back the banned. When are their sentences up?

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby davidh » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:45 pm

Mods have come and gone in the past 3 years, but your ocassional messages about how this place has gotten so dull remain constant. If it's so dull, noone forces you to come back to it.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby avalon_ » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:48 pm

I haven't consistently complained that this place is dull.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby davidh » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:51 pm

Actually my comment was to soda.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby tph24601 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:54 pm

you don't needs to be mod to start a recruitment drive for new posters

is soda volunteering for this initiative?

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby polardude1 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:55 pm

soda can't help himself
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:05 pm

davidh wrote:If it's so dull, noone forces you to come back to it.


No, not at all. And which is why my posting has been very sporadic the past couple of years now. I tend to post for a couple of months, get bored and not post for 3 or 4 months, drift back and so forth.

It could be the same function that leads me to believe summers were better when I was a kid, but I certainly don't find the Stew anywhere near as vibrant or varied as it was 3 or 4 years back.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:08 pm

tph24601 wrote:you don't needs to be mod to start a recruitment drive for new posters



No, I agree, but we would be in a better position to recruit new posters if a decent amount of threads on the Politics page contained something more than namecalling, spam and the worst strawmen in modern history.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby thoughtpolice » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:15 pm

The terms of service need to be amended so that every poster who whines about this site is obliged to make 5 OPs per day for one month.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby avalon_ » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:17 pm

It just seems like it's been slower lately. Sometimes hours and hours go by without anybody making a post.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:22 pm

thoughtpolice wrote:The terms of service need to be amended so that every poster who whines about this site is obliged to make 5 OPs per day for one month.


Can I make them all about how dull this place is?

Is it just me?

It could well be - but there seems to me to much less decent discussion and much less traffic than even a year ago. It seems very slow to me, anyway.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby tph24601 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:26 pm

soda 3.0 wrote:
tph24601 wrote:you don't needs to be mod to start a recruitment drive for new posters



No, I agree, but we would be in a better position to recruit new posters if a decent amount of threads on the Politics page contained something more than namecalling, spam and the worst strawmen in modern history.

excuses, excuses

nominate yourself to be a mod and start your recruitment initiative if this bother you that much

assuming this is not an attack thread (which we all know better), of course.....

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby Ian_in_DC » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:44 pm

soda 3.0 wrote:Can I make them all about how dull this place is?

Is it just me?

No there are others, but you are possibly the dullest out of the lot.

Are you honestly under some impression, Soda, that you are "above" feuding and attack posts? How would you then describe your "Disco Stu on the BBC" OP, for example? Stop whining like a two dollar 'ho who hasn't gotten paid and do something about this place then.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:45 pm

I'd genuinely prefer not to be a mod, because I think there are plenty of other posters who are less divisive and would do a perfectly fine job.

But if we face a real shortage, I don't mind giving it a crack.

I think the main thing is that the Mods ideally lead by example with decent debate and nice topics - rather than indulging in the spamming and endless namecalling that bores other posters off the site.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:47 pm

Ian_in_DC wrote:Is it just me?

No there are others, but you are possibly the dullest out of the lot.
.[/quote]

And yet you respond to my every post.

And no, my 'Disco Stu on the BBC' was not an attack thread - obviously. I'll give you a clue, Ian - attack threads tend to be insulting. That wasn't.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby tph24601 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:50 pm

as far as I know we are not facing a shortage of mods, but if you feel so strongly about wanting to do a recruitment drive, make your case to the posters here and if they agree we can make you a mod

soda 3.0 wrote:I
I think the main thing is that the Mods ideally lead by example with decent debate and nice topics - rather than indulging in the spamming and endless namecalling that bores other posters off the site.

no need to beat around the bush, tell us who these mods are

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby muthafunky » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:57 pm

No "elections".

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:58 pm

tph -

Having an election for mods has nothing to do with there being a shortage of mods. It's about trying to give the place a bit of a shot in the arm, maybe get some new ideas. Most of the current mods are fine, but as far as I know it's been a while since we've had an election and given the place a bit of a shake up.

And yes tph - I think you are an appalling poster - probably the weakest on the site right now. You are dishonest to a fault, inexplicably bitter, you spam, and you are apparently genetically incapable of entering any debate on any topic in good faith.

Having you as a mod is like having Reagan run memory technique workshops.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby joeyramone » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:59 pm

davidh wrote:Mods have come and gone in the past 3 years, but your ocassional messages about how this place has gotten so dull remain constant. If it's so dull, noone forces you to come back to it.

Post of the year.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 3:59 pm

muthafunky wrote:No "elections".


Oh, come on. Even Stalin had elections.

And no, you can't be the only candidate.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby tph24601 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:02 pm

soda 3.0 wrote: This is nothing personal about the current set of Mods, I just think it might be time for a bit of a makeover.


And yes tph - I think you are an appalling poster - probably the weakest on the site right now. You are dishonest to a fault, inexplicably bitter, you spam, and you are apparently genetically incapable of entering any debate on any topic in good faith.

Having you as a mod is like having Reagan run memory technique workshops.

Hmmmm, I can't see how anyone would think soda has anything personal against the mods.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:07 pm

tph24601 wrote:Hmmmm, I can't see how anyone would think soda has anything personal against the mods.


Other than you, I think they're all good posters.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby northern_goddess » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:13 pm

I don't understand how having an election for mods would make this place less dull, give it a shot in the arm or new ideas. Please explain your logic.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby tph24601 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:15 pm

hmmm, how cute, so soda makes this thread in the interest of the site, not as a personal attack
but of course

if you hate me that much, instead of wasting people's time and pretend to ask for an election for all of the mods
feel free to nominate yourself to replace me as mod
let's see how the other posters will support your proposal

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:19 pm

northern_goddess wrote:I don't understand how having an election for mods would make this place less dull, give it a shot in the arm or new ideas. Please explain your logic.

Thanks.


Well, maybe it wouldn't, I don't know.

It just seems to me that the place could do with some fresh ideas, and certainly a few new posters. I think the place got a new lease of life with the arrival of some Your Choice posters a while back, but since then it seems to be slowly drying up. Maybe it's worth thinking about some kind of recruitment drive, but maybe also some new features, new forums...whatever people might like and encourage them to post more.

Most people don't announce they are leaving or even think about it themselves - they just post less and less. Maybe a few new ideas and some new faces might reverse that trend.

But this is just my perception, and I've been posting here maybe 4 days in the past 4 or 5 months, so it can well be others see it differently.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby northern_goddess » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:27 pm

I'm just not 'getting' how having an election for mods would do any of those things. It's still before 10am here, so maybe I'm not fully awake yet and being a bit thick.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby northern_goddess » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:27 pm

and who stole my avatar?
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby Collateral Knowledge » Tue Sep 01, 2009 4:59 pm

Well the first person I would ask about what could attract good quality debaters back would be thegreenlantern. Except I know for a fact that some of those that people are nostalgizing about are in the front rank of those responsible for running this place down in the first place and putting him off posting here.

The quality of debate is indeed not nearly as a good as it was, partly because a larger proportion of those posting here either either can't debate or won't debate (- for various reasons; some have understandably given up and prefer to chat here). That's fine, unless those who won't/can't debate make a habit of cluttering up such interesting threads as do exist, and put off the likes of gl, shoes et al. It's no accident that the banned posters racked up huge amounts of posts between them, because they rarely bothered to even try to formulate an argument, they just settled for being an irritant. And anyone can do that, but if enough people do that and only that, then the more thoughtful posters will indeed give up.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby soda 3.0 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:06 pm

CK -

Excellent points, and well put. GL was/is certainly a terrific poster, not one easily replaced.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby tph24601 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 5:54 pm

tph24601 wrote:hmmm, how cute, so soda makes this thread in the interest of the site, not as a personal attack
because there is too much name calling and stuff going on,or something like that

if you hate me that much, instead of wasting people's time and pretend to ask for an election for all of the mods
feel free to nominate yourself to replace me as mod and propose your recruitment intiatives
let's see how the other posters will support your proposal

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby Ian_in_DC » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:01 pm

soda 3.0 wrote:But this is just my perception, and I've been posting here maybe 4 days in the past 4 or 5 months, so it can well be others see it differently.

Total bullshit: search.php?keywords=&terms=all&author=Soda+3.0&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=90&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search

511 posts just over the past 3 months, with a rather even distribution across the time horizon. Factor in your multiple trolls (shared and wholely owned) and it probably doubles the post count.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby Piel! » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:02 pm

davidh wrote:Mods have come and gone in the past 3 years, but your ocassional messages about how this place has gotten so dull remain constant. If it's so dull, noone forces you to come back to it.


This is his annual "Time for a Mods election" thread to try to "shake up this place".
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby Scott_Baio » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:03 pm

not one easily replaced.


Oy vey.

You talk about the guy like he shat bricks of gold and healed the blind.

What are you looking for soda? Give me specific examples of what YOU think would make this place better. It's a dopey message board. It's a place for bored office workers to go during the day to hang out and interact with other bored office workers.

This nostagia for the halcyion days of yesteryear when this place was a literary salon filled with great thinkers, poets, and world class writers is so f-ing myopic.

Take an honest look at this place years ago and it was filled with Turd clogging the board with Cuba is great OP's, the Tea Bag vs. Jew Frat thing, and btraven waxing poetic about how he helped drive the Talking Heads into Platinum selling recording artists.

Christ...it wasn't all that great.

The only thing that has happened is that the crazies have either flamed out or they have been banned for finally going over the edge.

Yeah...this place is dull at times. But you can hardly blame peopel anymore. People move on. They develope different interests. We can't hope that people stay and post FOREVER do you?

And really...when you talk about generating good debate do you think that your "American Indians aren't Aboriginals" is an example of posting in good faith? Is that the type of debate you are hoping to get? ]'

The only time this board (LPTPWDY) was truly great was the time right after 9/11. THAT was zee Golden Age of posting on Talk Politics. That's when all the crazies came out of the woodwork to hoist their fists in Crazy Righteousness and to tell the Americans that the "chickens have finally come home to roost". Those were great debates and the posters were fresh and exciting.

But like anything...the novelty wears off and people move on.

The Dishy's of the world buy concrete boats and sit in Mexico and the Benighted's finally get banned. It's the way it goes.

But do tell...what are YOUR ideas on making this a better place?
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby polardude1 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:18 pm

This is his annual "Time for a Mods election" thread to try to "shake up this place


it usually coinsides with Soda's return from his travels. I think it is related to adjustment disorder
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby snowgirl » Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:27 pm

I've noticed it's a bit slower lately but I assumed that it was just part of the ebb and flow of the place.

CK makes some good points. Many recent OPs have quickly degenerated into playground namecalling which gets boring for the rest of us not so engaged. Thegreenlatern certainly did class the joint up. Come back, greenlantern! We'll do better, I promise!
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby muthafunky » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:08 pm

Here is a graph of posts per week over the past 9 months or so. There are ebbs and flows, though this year it's been about 4-6k per week. I'm actually surprised there's not more of a dropoff in the summer... don't you people take vacations?

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby muthafunky » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:24 pm

Here are number of distinct posters over the same time period.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby Northof49 » Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:39 pm

How is replacing the mods or even one mod going to make this place less dull? IMHO, it's not really dull at all. Mod election? When's the last time we had one of those? It's hard enough to appoint someone to replace a mod let alone getting enough to have an actual election. BTW, I thought Equus was a mod - is he no longer one?

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby muthafunky » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:14 pm

Equus is a mod

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby joeyramone » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:15 pm

pretty much everyone here is a mod except me, scotty and soda.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby avalon_ » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:17 pm

I'm not a mod.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby joeyramone » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:20 pm

avalon_ wrote:I'm not a mod.


you're probably an admin.
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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby avalon_ » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:21 pm

joeyramone wrote:
avalon_ wrote:I'm not a mod.


you're probably an admin.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby thoughtpolice » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:24 pm

avalon_ wrote:
joeyramone wrote:
avalon_ wrote:I'm not a mod.


you're probably an admin.

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Re: Time for a Mods election?

Postby joeyramone » Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:26 pm

Sorry avalon, just me having fun...i think it was daejin or one other person who was getting personal in his insults, and I said "that's no way for a mod to act", and he replied in total sincerity "I'm not a mod, I'm an admin".
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